# Bug Gumball When move and Copy

**URL:** <https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/bug-gumball-when-move-and-copy/118255>\
**Category:** Rhino for Windows\
**Tags:** windows\
**Created:** [February 10, 2021, 3:50pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/bug-gumball-when-move-and-copy/118255 "2021-02-10T15:50:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![RedAlert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/redalert/32/664553_2.png) [@RedAlert](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/RedAlert)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2021, 3:50pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/bug-gumball-when-move-and-copy/118255/1 "2021-02-10T15:50:05Z")

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(7.4.21040.13001, 2021-02-09)

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**Author:** ![RedAlert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/redalert/32/664553_2.png) [@RedAlert](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/RedAlert)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 12:33pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/bug-gumball-when-move-and-copy/118255/2 "2021-02-11T12:33:36Z")

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@BrianJ **Hello, please**

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**Author:** ![BrianJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/brianj/32/751593_2.png) [@BrianJ](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/BrianJ)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 4:13pm UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/bug-gumball-when-move-and-copy/118255/3 "2021-02-12T16:13:05Z")

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Thanks for the report, I see this too and filed it as [https://mcneel.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/RH-62774](https://mcneel.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/RH-62774)

In the meantime, click and release on the GB arrow while holding Alt. Then release Alt and type the numeric value followed by Enter. This works as expected here and may help for now.

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**Author:** ![Rhino\_Bulgaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/mcneel/user_avatar/discourse.mcneel.com/rhino_bulgaria/32/505284_2.png) [@Rhino\_Bulgaria](https://discourse.mcneel.com/u/Rhino_Bulgaria)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 9:06am UTC](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/bug-gumball-when-move-and-copy/118255/4 "2021-02-13T09:06:30Z")

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Sadly, that bug also happens with the “Move” tool. It basically prevents me from using Rhino 7.4 now. 😖 Check this report, too:

> [@HUGE BUG in Rhino 7.4 while moving objects!](https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/huge-bug-in-rhino-7-4-while-moving-objects/118462):
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> I found one annoying bug in the latest Rhino 7.4 that’s very critical to the modeling process. Rhino will refuse to follow the numerical distance set by the keyboard and will place the moved (or copied) object relative to the mouse pointer instead. It ignores both, the “Move” tool and the Gumball while using the keyboard. Here is an example: [[Bug in Rhino 7.4 while moving objects] ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5lKwf8ngIY)