Bug: Gumball hidden in selected dimensions in perpendicular views

Serengeti (Rhino WIP)
1

The gumball is not visible or selectable in views that the dimension is perpendicular to, as picture below.

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I’m using DirectX 12, sysinfo below

Rhino 9 SR0 2025-11-4 (Rhino WIP, 9.0.25308.12305, Git hash:master @ dcdd5e733d49328dfccbd55eadba6bbb8588b316)
License type: Commercial, build 2025-11-04
License details: Cloud Zoo
Expires on: 2025-12-19

Windows 11 (10.0.26200 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 32GB)
.NET 9.0.10

Computer platform: LAPTOP  - Plugged in [100% battery remaining]

Hybrid graphics configuration using DirectX
  Primary display: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti Laptop GPU (NVidia) Memory: 8GB, Driver date: 9-9-2025 (M-D-Y).
    > Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
        - Laptop's primary display device

Secondary graphics devices.
  Intel(R) Iris(R) Xe Graphics (Intel) Memory: 2GB, Driver date: 9-6-2025 (M-D-Y).
    > Integrated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
        - Windows Main Display is laptop's integrated screen or built-in port

DirectX Settings
  Safe mode: Off

OpenBLAS: OpenBLAS 0.3.29 DYNAMIC_ARCH NO_AFFINITY Haswell MAX_THREADS=64.

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp	"Commands"	9.0.25308.12305
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\WebBrowser.rhp	"WebBrowser"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp	"Renderer Development Kit"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoScript.rhp	"RhinoScript"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\AnimationTools.rhp	"AnimationTools"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\IdleProcessor.rhp	"IdleProcessor"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp	"Rhino Render"	9.0.25308.12305
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp	"Legacy Rhino Render"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp	"RDK_EtoUI"	9.0.25308.12305
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp	"Snapshots"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp	"MeshCommands"	9.0.25308.12305
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp	"RhinoCycles"	9.0.25308.12305
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp	"Toolbars"	9.0.25308.12305
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp	"3Dconnexion 3D Mouse"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\import_GHS.rhp	"General Hydrostatics (GHS) Import"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp	"Displacement"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp	"SectionTools"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\UpdatesAndStatistics\UpdatesAndStatistics.rhp	"UpdatesAndStatistics"	9.0.25308.12305
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\Calc.rhp	"Calc"

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2

I think the primary issue is that a dimension isn’t visible in a perpendicular view.

The confusing bit is that it can be moved despite not being visible…

Anyway, why move the annotation? It breaks history.

3

Frequent use cases, disregarding history, and disregarding layouts:

  • for dimensions placed in the perpective view for quick presentations
  • sometimes the drawing is set to project to cplane in parallel views
  • or the snaps used are behind another object
  • any case where the dimension is occluded and the user wants to move it in another parallel view
  • move the invisible dimension using SetPt, Move, etc..

We can move planar curves that are almost invisible in some other parallel view, the gumball not beign there for the dimensions feels wrong, I see it as a bug not a deliberate ux choice.

Picture below is from Rhino 8:

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