Hi.
I would love to be able to hide / pop up the Panel section (Layers/etc). Can it be done?
I found a solution for Mac… but would need it for Windows.
Best,
Anika
Does “Fullscreen” work for you?
fullscreen also hides everything else… statusbar/command line.
im looking for a solution, that works like popup toolbars…
At the moment there is nothing that controls this that I know of.
-Pascal
Any more discussion on this? I really like the Layers area at the bottom of the screen which works like a pop out panel, that auto hides. I use it loads when working on a laptop with no external monitors.
it would be so awesome if we had the same functionality for Object Properties, Box Edit, etc.
Any chance we could have something like this for v8? v9??
Hi Andrew -
In Rhino 8, when you unpin the left or right sidebars, they will auto-hide when you move the mouse into the viewport area. It’s be good if you could download the current WIP, give that a spin, and provide feedback.
-wim
Hi Wim,
I’m obviously doing something wrong.
The only time these sidebars disappear is when I click off Rhino to another app.
Hi Andrew -
You need to dock the containers to the sides. When you do that, there’ll be widget on the status bar to pin or unpin the sidebars:
-wim
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Hi Wim, Yes I saw those widgets but I thought these panels would auto-hide?
I realise pressing the widget will hide or show them, but I would love the ability for them to auto-hide as soon as you click off them, in a similar fashion to the Layers section of the dashboard.
Hi Andrew -
They do.
You use the widget only to change the behavior from “always open” to “auto-hide”. When you are in “auto-hide” mode, you click on the tab of the panel that you want to see and do what you need in that panel. When you then move the mouse away from that panel, the sidebar hide automatically.
-wim
There are two problems with that particular feature on my Rhino 8 WIP.
- When I right-click on the various sections while the docked “Properties” panel is temporarily shown, the pop-up menu appears behind the main pop-up window.
However, right-clicking on the same area on a fully docked panel works just fine.
My recommendation is to get rid of the solid gray vertical bar and make it fully transparent. Evoking the “Properties” panel should be done either by hovering the mouse pointer at any point inside the gray area (that should be transparent) or by clickin on the vertically arranged icons there.
- The “Main” side panel on the left side seems to shown just a fraction of the whole set of icons that should be there.
Here is how the “Main” left toolbar panel looks like when it’s permanently docked (no auto-hide):
Here is how the auto-hidden panel looks like when it’s shown. Note that may icons are missing (basically every second row):
In order to show the auto-hidden “Main” panel, I’m forced to click on some invisible icon on the upper left corner of the gray bar.
A much smarter solution would be to just hover the mouse at any point where the left gray area is located, in order to evoke the side panel (no mouse click needed). Even better would be to make that gray area fully transparent, because that leaves more working area in the 3d viewport.
Hi Bobi -
I’m not seeing that here 
What “various sections” are you right-clicking on? 
On my system, with the default Rhino window layout, no icons appear to be missing but some of them are getting cut off a bit →
RH-73263 UI Appearance: Buttons are cut off on auto-hide
Added as RH-73264 UI Appearance: Main on collapsed sidebar has no icon
Feature request on the pile 
as RH-73265 UI Appearance: Transparent collapsed sidebars
-wim
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Seems like I forgot to reply yesterday. Sorry for the delay. My first image above shows how I right-click on the “Linetype” section and the pop-up menu appears behind the main “Properties” panel. A small portion of the pop-up menu is also seen on the right side of the same image. I use a default Rhino 8 WIP, with no customization on the UI.
Hi Bobi -
Thanks → RH-73310 UI Appearance: Menu pops up under auto-hide sidebar
In that case, you might want to reset the window layout to the “Default Window Layout”, as that has clearly changed from how you have it.
-wim
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Aha, I got it! I didn’t realise I needed to click the icon when the panel was minimised. It works well!
Any chance we could make it activate with a hover as well as a click?!
I did that, but I don’t like the default layout with too wide “Main” panel on the left side and too narrow “Properties” one on the right side, so I changed their size again.
However, I would like to report some bug that happens upon trying to load and change material to a selected object. Rhino 8 WIP already crashed twice while doing that (there was no bug report pop-up window or emergency file to send it to “McNeel”), but the majority of times it will only freeze for about 1-5 seconds depending on the material type. It’s really annoying to have the entire program and Windows 10 freezing while loading of the materials (can’t switch to another program via Alt+Tab meantime). Note that I already had a few other objects in the new scene and used to apply the glass material to some of them, so it was already loaded in the current session. I was able to record that delay and it happens at several moments in the video: 0:07 minute while clocking on the round Material icon, 0:10 minute while clocking on the “toothpaste” icon, 0:18 minute while clicking on the “Plaster” button, and 0:22 after changing the material type to “Glass”. The last operation took 5 seconds and ended at the 0:27 minute.
I use an old CPU from year 2014 (Intel Core i5-4460) and old memory type (16GB DDR3), but I don’t think that those are the bottleneck, because Rhino 7 works extremely fast on my PC.
Hello guys,
Very happy to see this new feature, especially for small macbook screens !
One request still, can we adjust the fade out / hiding delay after the mouse is outside of the panel ? Would be great to be able to specify a longer delay, if we want to work back on the layer panels right next a quick modification for instance.
Best regards, Mathieu
So you want the panel to hang around long enough that if you change your mind and want it, you can grab it before it disappears? We had it sticking around longer at first, and found that when all was said and done, the longer delay made it more annoying, not less.
You may want to read this other topic where I proposed how the auto-hide Properties panel could work in a more convenient way.
I see two possibilities here, both of which need to be adjustable by the user from the Rhino settings:
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Allow users to set a margin (width in pixels) outside the Properties panel, so that the latter will not hide automatically unless the mouse pointer leaves the area of the said margin. For example, if the Properties panel is 500 pixels wide and the margin is 200 pixels wide, the Properties panel will start to auto hide only after the muse pointer leaves the common area of 700 pixels starting from the right side of the screen.
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Allow users to set a delay (in milliseconds) for the auto-hide function of the Properties panel, so that the latter will be temporarily seen for a brief period of time even after the mouse pointer leaves its area. For example, if the user-set time is 2000 milliseconds, the Properties panel should start to fade out only after moving the mouse pointer outside its area 2 seconds earlier.
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