When selecting an object control points are automatically displayed which is fine, I know how to turn that off if I wish. Isn’t the expected behavior though, that these control points should also be automatically hidden when deselecting the object or selecting a different object?
That’s not happening for me. As you can see in the photo, when selecting a different curve, the control points on the previously selected curves are still displayed. In this case 4 curves are showing control points even though I have only 1 curve selected.
This is annoying because when I try to reselect one of those curves, I’m always asked if I want to select the curve or the control points. I repeatedly have to use the points off button in the main toolbar to clear these.
Is there a way to automatically hide the control points when an object is no longer selected or is this a bug in Rhino 8?
Hi Peter - yeah - if you de-select all, all the auto points on will turn off if you have not edited them. but as long as you’re selecting they stay on - I can see how that might or might not be a good thing (I never have this option turned on, myself). I’ll ask the developer.
Thanks Pascal. I guess I’ll have to turn that option off for now. I definitely would like to see an option that limits auto control points to only actively selected object(s) and auto hides those control points the moment the object(s) is deselected.
Is there a reason for this change? I find the inconsistency of this new behavior annoying (some operations result in persistent control points, while most don’t) and can’t see why it would be useful, it just adds extra clicks to turn them off.
I happen to agree, but like Pascal, I turn off the parent feature because I didn’t like that change either. Someone must have liked it, and wanted it to be more aggressive, though I can’t find evidence of that in our massive database of bugs and feature requests.
i too had this feature disabled as soon as it was new and read some time ago that it has been enabled by default to make it easier to discover by new users. This seems to be an unfortunate practice which happen to other things like auto cplane etc. causing a lot of questions by users.
From what i see the auto points on feature is less useful and can get slightly problematic. Please try this example:
Create a polyline and select it.
Create a few points on the polyline segments using the _Point command
While the polyline is selected run the _Split command and choose the _Point option
Now try to click where the points are which you have drawn under step 2
Since point objects visually appear the same as control points by default, it is not possible to continue safely (where to click now ?) unless you either restart the _Split operation without a preselection or by changing the display settings to make point objects easier distinguishable from curve control points.
I’ve found countless situations where i would prefer not to display the control points by default but only a few where i want to see them. eg. i want to point edit. In these situations i turned them on using ! _PointsOn of course. I’ve never used _PointsOff, somehow got used to just holding ESC to do the same.
The most seen error with that feature enabled i’ve seen is that students having a small laptop screen working with 4 views are accidentally dragging either subcurves, polyline segments or control points when they are attempting to drag a preselected polycurve or polyline. This feature really makes it easy to goof things up but nobody is then asking where it can be turned off. They just think this is how Rhino works.
Yep. It’s a continual debate around here. Should we spend days or weeks or years developing a feature that nobody knows to even look for and find? What about the people that didn’t even know they wanted it? Believe me, there are lots of things that are off by default because we think it does more damage than good.
Sigh. Yep, discovering the way to turn it off is just as hard as discovering turning it on. And if we make it discoverable, then there’s too many settings upon settings, and it’s no longer discoverable.
That’s it. Rhino 9, it’s just gonna be spheres. Nothing else. And a box. Two buttons. You can’t even add them together or subtract them. Just pile them all up. What could be better.
