As soon the last point of a drawing is clicked. the object dissappears

As soon the last point of a drawing is clicked. the object dissappears.
In Edit > Select > All I see there is 1 extrusion. So it should be there.
But what is happening that I do not see it?

I did a reset to be sure this is not a bad setting I did.
I am using a macbook pro, running sonoma.

what display mode are you working in?

It might help to reset that particular display mode to defaults.

In the display panel, any chance you have surface edges turned off?

posting the result from running the systeminfo command in rhino will help too.

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License type: Evaluation, build 2024-08-15
License details: Stand-Alone
Expires on: 2024-12-09

Apple macOS Version 14.6.1 (Build 23G93) (Physical RAM: 8GB)
Mac Model Identifier: MacBookPro11,1
Language: en-US (MacOS default)
.NET 7.0.0

Metal GPU Family Apple 0
Metal GPU Family Common 2
Metal GPU Family Mac 1
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Intel Iris (1536 MB)
Color LCD (1280 x 800)
GPU Vendor: Intel

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SOLVED:

All viewports were set to wireframe. After changing to other display modes my stuff showed up. Thanks @theoutside

Leaves this question:
When I draw a 2D thing it does not show up. 3D things are visible.
Must be a setting too to change?

HI Eef -

According to Identify your MacBook Pro model - Apple Support, the latest compatible OS version for the MacBookPro11,1 is macOS 11 (Big Sur). I’d expect problems when running a non-compatible OS on Apple hardware.
You could try the TestMetal command in Rhino. That will switch to the old OpenGL display pipeline, and while some things might work better that way, you are pretty much guaranteed to run into some issues with that as well.
-wim

I will test that.
By now I found that the issue I have is related to the wireframe settings.
Some setting must be wrong there.
(when I started Rhino yesterday, I am sure I did see some 2D objects I made on the screen, so somewhere it was changed (my me, probably :wink: )
But what?

I run sonoma with opencorepatcher, what runs fine for all apps I use, this would be the first one with an issue.

Tested Testmetal.
When Metal is OFF, I only see wireframes. No rendered objects anymore and yes, I see the 2D objects I made.
When Metal is ON, I see rendered objects :slight_smile: . But no wireframes.
But I see the lines while drawing. But, as before, not the results.

I installed the Windows version on the same machine. (Intel on Macbook Pro).
Now it seems to work like it should,

  • difference in tools > options > view
    Now there is a OpenGL option with GPU tessaltion (set to ON)
    which was not available in the Mac version

right, that setting is windows only- In OSX graphics performance is all controlled by the OS itself.

seems like you found the issue and test metal solved it on the mac side?

Sorry to say, but answer is NO and NO

  • WIth TestMetal, I see the wireframe and all lines, but nothing rendered anymore (the other x options). This just went from bad to worse
  • Then I installed the WINDOWS version (same MacBook (Intel) but other OS).
    Works Only in Safe Mode Rhino. When not in SafeMode it crashes at this specific point: I can add 1 point (the start of the line) as soon as I move to the endpoint, the cursor starts turning and rhino crashes.

So I guess I have two options:

  • In windows try to find what causes the crash (No idea how to)
  • In MacOS, (I got the advice on OpenCorePatcher to downgrade to Monterey). So I just installed that, and I have to test Rhino there.

So far from designing and creating in Rhino.

It gets even worse.
To test Rhino on Montery and Windows, I had to delete the licency key.
And then login on the other OS. This worked fine 1 time.
Now it says I have a evalution key and gratulates me.
And right after it tells me there is no licence key and shuts Rhino down.
End of story

Do any of your devices have the Rhino’s system requirements? If so please post the SystemInfo. Thanks

See the info above. All is running on the same MacBook/intel machine. That’s what I have.
It seems, for an evaluation I have to:

  • buy new machine
  • buy a license (because evaluation key does not work anymore.
    That is much for a hobbyist like me

OK. found some instructions on this forum about re-entering the key. And that worked.
Next to Monterey Rhino8 and pfffffh, there is worked out of the box.
Nice wireframes + rendering. No cursor ball running until crash.

OK, I am back in the race.

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