Eef
(Eef)
September 10, 2024, 8:31pm
1
As soon the last point of a drawing is clicked. the object dissappears.
In Edit > Select > All I see there is 1 extrusion. So it should be there.
But what is happening that I do not see it?
I did a reset to be sure this is not a bad setting I did.
I am using a macbook pro, running sonoma.
theoutside
(Kyle Houchens)
September 10, 2024, 8:34pm
2
what display mode are you working in?
It might help to reset that particular display mode to defaults.
In the display panel, any chance you have surface edges turned off?
posting the result from running the systeminfo command in rhino will help too.
Eef
(Eef)
September 11, 2024, 4:39am
3
Kyle Houchens:
systeminfo
Rhino 8 SR10 2024-8-15 (Rhino 8, 8.10.24228.13002, Git hash:master @ f4c93f2b85de4dc69b50ed22f1b0d91445724d03)
License type: Evaluation, build 2024-08-15
License details: Stand-Alone
Expires on: 2024-12-09
Apple macOS Version 14.6.1 (Build 23G93) (Physical RAM: 8GB)
Mac Model Identifier: MacBookPro11,1
Language: en-US (MacOS default)
.NET 7.0.0
Metal GPU Family Apple 0
Metal GPU Family Common 2
Metal GPU Family Mac 1
Graphics processors
Intel Iris (1536 MB)
Color LCD (1280 x 800)
GPU Vendor: Intel
USB devices
Apple Inc.: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
Apple Inc.: Bluetooth USB Host Controller
Bluetooth devices
None
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Eef
(Eef)
September 11, 2024, 4:49am
4
SOLVED:
All viewports were set to wireframe. After changing to other display modes my stuff showed up. Thanks @theoutside
Leaves this question:
When I draw a 2D thing it does not show up. 3D things are visible.
Must be a setting too to change?
wim
(Wim Dekeyser)
September 11, 2024, 7:27am
5
HI Eef -
According to Identify your MacBook Pro model - Apple Support , the latest compatible OS version for the MacBookPro11,1 is macOS 11 (Big Sur). I’d expect problems when running a non-compatible OS on Apple hardware.
You could try the TestMetal
command in Rhino. That will switch to the old OpenGL display pipeline, and while some things might work better that way, you are pretty much guaranteed to run into some issues with that as well.
-wim
Eef
(Eef)
September 11, 2024, 7:39am
6
Wim Dekeyser:
TestMetal
I will test that.
By now I found that the issue I have is related to the wireframe settings.
Some setting must be wrong there.
(when I started Rhino yesterday, I am sure I did see some 2D objects I made on the screen, so somewhere it was changed (my me, probably )
But what?
Eef
(Eef)
September 11, 2024, 7:41am
7
I run sonoma with opencorepatcher, what runs fine for all apps I use, this would be the first one with an issue.
Eef
(Eef)
September 11, 2024, 7:47am
8
Tested Testmetal.
When Metal is OFF, I only see wireframes. No rendered objects anymore and yes, I see the 2D objects I made.
When Metal is ON, I see rendered objects . But no wireframes.
But I see the lines while drawing. But, as before, not the results.
Eef
(Eef)
September 11, 2024, 8:55am
9
I installed the Windows version on the same machine. (Intel on Macbook Pro).
Now it seems to work like it should,
difference in tools > options > view
Now there is a OpenGL option with GPU tessaltion (set to ON)
which was not available in the Mac version
theoutside
(Kyle Houchens)
September 11, 2024, 4:24pm
10
right, that setting is windows only- In OSX graphics performance is all controlled by the OS itself.
seems like you found the issue and test metal solved it on the mac side?
Eef
(Eef)
September 11, 2024, 5:03pm
11
Sorry to say, but answer is NO and NO
WIth TestMetal, I see the wireframe and all lines, but nothing rendered anymore (the other x options). This just went from bad to worse
Then I installed the WINDOWS version (same MacBook (Intel) but other OS).
Works Only in Safe Mode Rhino. When not in SafeMode it crashes at this specific point: I can add 1 point (the start of the line) as soon as I move to the endpoint, the cursor starts turning and rhino crashes.
So I guess I have two options:
In windows try to find what causes the crash (No idea how to)
In MacOS, (I got the advice on OpenCorePatcher to downgrade to Monterey). So I just installed that, and I have to test Rhino there.
So far from designing and creating in Rhino.
Eef
(Eef)
September 11, 2024, 6:16pm
12
It gets even worse.
To test Rhino on Montery and Windows, I had to delete the licency key.
And then login on the other OS. This worked fine 1 time.
Now it says I have a evalution key and gratulates me.
And right after it tells me there is no licence key and shuts Rhino down.
End of story
Japhy
(Japhy)
September 11, 2024, 6:32pm
13
Do any of your devices have the Rhino’s system requirements? If so please post the SystemInfo. Thanks
Eef
(Eef)
September 11, 2024, 6:48pm
14
See the info above. All is running on the same MacBook/intel machine. That’s what I have.
It seems, for an evaluation I have to:
buy new machine
buy a license (because evaluation key does not work anymore.
That is much for a hobbyist like me
Eef
(Eef)
September 11, 2024, 8:51pm
15
OK. found some instructions on this forum about re-entering the key. And that worked.
Next to Monterey Rhino8 and pfffffh, there is worked out of the box.
Nice wireframes + rendering. No cursor ball running until crash.
OK, I am back in the race.
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