Apple Silicon/M1 - No for BigSur 11.2, yes for BigSur 11.3

Yeah, I agree although for my work is somewhere around 32gb ram and 8gb vram, but yeah if you are using a desktop of that caliber these machines are definitely not for you.

This is for someone with light pro workflows who is getting a 13 XPS or MAC anyway, for that kind of machine this is where is at right now.

I’m using a laptop of that caliber :rofl:. If I couldn’t afford it, I’d be using a desktop, not a weak sauce laptop.

I did try the compromised, easy to carry laptop life before. It made me a horrible designers, because trying things was slow. It was a motivation to settle, continuously. It leads to a life of frustration and mediocrity IMO. Your hardware should never be what holds your career back.

It pains me to see how most people don’t see this. They rather buy something portable than something good. I understand it, I did it too. I even run MacPros on VMware. What an idiot I was :man_facepalming:t2:

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Interesting to hear this from McNeel Team.

The reason is we don’t have one yet and have no idea what will be involved to support them.
If you need a computer now, don’t buy one of those.
We can’t stop you and it might work. We can’t help if it doesn’t.

My best guess is we may be able to support them with V8 but that’s a wild ass guess.

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Yes, I understand. Better support / integration for Mac would be great. But I assume it is a lot of work.
Thank you.

I can confirm that 7 and M1 Mac are not currently compatible. I’m just using the evaluation version but there is a conflict with “materials” such that the software crashes if you try even to select material properties and it will not open any Rhino 6 files which use materials other than default. I guess my 3 months will be up before it’s fixed.

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ok, let me be the one… could someone finally edit that title? :slight_smile:

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I tried today and it seems Rosetta has issues with the display subsystem, as well as in other similar software.

M1 has a “unified memory” model for both CPU & GPU. It’s probably better than the traditional shared memory (as per bus & link) but is definitely worse than dedicated graphics memory. :thinking:

Wow :astonished:— v7 isn’t out yet, and v8 will take years time, isn’t it?

Do we talk about 3 or more years to get M1 (possibly) working with Rhino v8 (non-Beta)??

FWIW,


-wim

Possibly…

:heavy_check_mark: OK. :smiley:

When was it released? Didn’t see it coming — on macOS …

That is pretty fast for a McNeel Release - The Version 6 for Mac is not one year old?! Please correct me if I am wrong.

round about 2019-12-18?!?
Sorry I am wrong it was Jul 2019

I total Agree with you that you need to synchronize the release dates but update wise it isn’t a easy choice for a just mac Users with the fast release - Don’t get me wrong I am really happy about the release and I total like the new Version and think also it is really a big big step forward but timeline wise and a bit expansive step. And of course (for me) it the new stuff is total worth it.

Sorry I was wrong it the release date was Jul 2019

I typically only use Rhino on a Mac for designing and then render in another program. I think in general Rosetta 2 emulation will be fine for a bit if there are bug fixes made to act as abridge until an Apple Silicon version. So if it takes time to rework, waiting will be ok.

Rhino is not running bugfree on Rosetta2 and it takes a while until it’s running natively on ARM (what takes time for development that is hard to define) - got it. Even though I know there will not be an official statement, but I guess Version 6/7 (for Intel-Macs) will runs stable on Rosetta2 within the next year. Seems that performance is not the problem but stability. Would be nice to be updated for the macs with ARM. The ARM-Macs seem to be very interesting for many reasons but right now (probably not for Rhino only) not for the productive mode anyway - I am interested but not in a hurry.

Hi - please see the following page for up-to-date information

-wim

Apple’s M1 chip has its RAM, CPU, GPU, etc. all in one chip. It consumes order of magnitude less power than comparable Intel CPUs. The GPU is fast enough for most CAD users.

more info about the M1 power consumption and laptop fan noise:

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