The only part of Rhino that would currently be using a feature like hardware accelerated ray tracing would be in cycles.
ok i might have to get an m3 and test it then but that is what i am trying to figure out since Rhino is my main app even for rendering i am trying to understand the potential advantages before i go shopping.
i assume that this eventually could also drive the rendered display mode?
Are you invested in staying with the apple systems?
I did a test on my M3 Max with the classroom scene from Blender. In current 8 SR that scene renders just as fast as in Blender: 4K, 300 samples in a little more than a minute
have you benched this on a comparable pc?
Iâm curious to see how it compares.
my last personal mac/ pc shoot out, the mac did better using v8, but still got obliterated by my 7 yo pc with an nvidia rtx quadro 5000.
the pc was more than 2x faster- (my m1 max vs my pc.)
Iâm dying to see the mac catch up and perform with some sort of equality.
if you want to try:
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Thanks @nathanletwory and @Gijs for the info. I must have missed the move over to utilizing apple silicon with cycles. Last I saw it was an upcoming project not live. Great news.
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Blender takes 3 minutes and 25 seconds for the same number of samples and resolution but the scene is also a little different.
Thatâs a pretty big difference, I got very similar times with the two scenes.
@diff-arch it doesnât look like you were using the Blender file I posted in the google link, correct?
side note: credits for the Rhino version of it are mostly @ThomasAn . I only did some tweaks to make both scenes as similar as possible
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Ah no, I used to one from the Blender website. I reran the tests with yours and the outcome is similar: 3 minutes and 13 seconds
is this a Mac vs Windows kind of thing?
thanks for the files - very interesting to see this kind of similar speed between Rhino and Blender
I tested an M4 Max (40 Cores GPU) with Rhino 9 WIP : 57 sec. With Blender the same time ± 0,5 sec.
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no, simple question.
some folks are very attached to one platform over another.
so your question had the sole purpose to reveal whether i am in favour of one platform, interesting.
Itâs simple question.
if you want a mac, I have info I can share, if you want a pc I can share different info.
alright then.
i dont have a very strong opinion but either way, i rely on macs because they have been serving me well since shortly before the 2nd millennium, i had ups and downs with pcs before that for many years, i did not have anything in particular against pc but at some point i just wanted to try macs since everyone in my environment had one. they also looked nice so there is that.
then i stuck with it though also here it was never all milk and honey but MacOs went down the drain a long time ago, pretty exact after Steve Jobs left us⊠. and the hassle in getting a reliable pc that potentially could annoy me less was never a thing of reality. pcs are just noisy ugly and only perform well and reliable and maybe less noisy if you are a freaking geek, which i was before i got a mac, but now i just work on computers and do less tinkering geeking. in the end it really is just about convenience. my m1 mac studio ultra sits there super silent almost zero noise emission from the cooling i never hear a beep and it performs astoundingly well so why change. if MacOs could heal up i probably would be invested, but if linux is the next best thing so be it. i want the stuff to work well and not get in the way thats all, if that is a pc or a pocket calculator i really dont mind.
then you are not working hard enough 
My M2 gets super hot and the fans blow. It is enough to open VSCode with the root Rhino code repository. After around 15 minutes it gets really hot (over 100C), even if I do nothing else but have the program with the source code open.
@nathanletwory this seems strange, I have the same M2Max as you, and I find it challenging to get the fans to blow unless doing rendering.
I donât code so no Idea what VSCode demands from the computer [resource wise]. but if you can share a sample operation [perhaps in Rhino itself] that you find heat up the computer more then desired âŠ. Iâd like to test here.